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BUCKING THE TREND

Journal Entry: Tue Feb 5, 2008, 10:57 PM
  • Mood: Movingon
  • Listening to: Various film scores
  • Reading: Ludlum
  • Watching: DVDs on HD Plasma
  • Playing: Silly stuff on PS3, and XBox 360
  • Eating: Humble Pie
  • Drinking: Grog
With this online art community, we have a unique opportunity to connect with our kindred. We must avail ourselves of this experience, for it may never come again.

All righty, then...
The news is out, and here's my latest rant, culled from another comment exchange I shared with the one, the only, the aMAZing Spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiderrrrrr-Guiiiiiiile!!! *That was in the voice of Bruce Campbell, from the first Spider-Man movie.*

It has to do with the new Captain America. But of course, with me there's always spillover, and nothing is safe. Commenceth el Rant-eth!!!

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Bucky Barnes with a gat, no less.
I wonder how long it will be before Joke Quesada has to reverse this misstep, and resurrect Steve Rogers. Or perhaps somebody else will.

And this brand of identity swap isn't even original, recalling how Wally West assumed the Flash mantle after the demise of Barry Allen.

Obviously, it's all in an effort to keep things fresh, reinventing old characters for new readerships.
However, the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Bucky Barnes. Feh.

I'm not a big fan of transforming iconic characters into legacies. Each individual's purpose in donning that particular superhero costume is specifically personal, borne from uniquely personal experience and motivation. I think it's perverse to have someone else become Batman, never having suffered the same ordeal Bruce Wayne did. Bruce Wayne IS Batman. For someone else, someone new, to carry on in his guise after him is disgusting. There can only be ONE.
Yes, I hated Batman Beyond, but more for how it drastically over-stretched the premise. That was a pure sellout by Bruce Timm.

Having said this, I do believe there are some characters that are constructed to feasibly be legacies. Green Lantern actually starts out as one, becoming a member of an already vast, intergalactic community. Still, nobody should specifically supplant Hal Jordan. Reinvent the character completely. There's room for it here, even though, again, every attempt DC has made has sucked Oan weenie. LOL!

Additionally, Iron Man can still work as a generational character, since the armor continues to evolve, is impersonal, and Tony Stark lacked the personal impetus that Bruce Wayne, Bruce Banner, Clark Kent, Peter Parker, and others gained their identity from.

If you revamp Captain America, have the balls to completely redesign him. It's obscene for "Bucky" to don the same uniform in some psycho-pathetic tribute. Carry on by boldly taking up the fight, assuming your own brave new visage and image, instead of masquerading as someone else and appropriating his credibility, esteem, and authoritative intimidation. Bucky hasn't earned ANY of this. Adapt his ideals, not his identity. But typically, they'll use this opportunity to unveil a darker, grimmer, grittier Captain America, and blame it on the state of the world. An amateurish cop out. Like Superman, Captain America is supposed to be an incorruptible symbol, bringing light to darkness, shining like an optimistically "white-bread" beacon through any adversity. Wonder Woman also works best this way. That's their effective dynamic.

It's okay to preserve the sentimentality of Cap's famous shield, installing it as a "sacred talisman," to be solemnly passed on to successors. But the Super Soldier serum was originally supposed to be a one-time only godmaker. Any writers who could not work stories within this stricture, simply weren't being creative enough. In fact, this restriction opens more dramatically interesting possibilities, instilling a more compelling vulnerability.

I may post this rant in my Journal. LOL!
Let everybody take a whack at me. :)

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*thelearningcurv:iconthelearningcurv: Feb 5, 2008, 11:50:25 PM
whats funny is I read this entire journal entry=] I rarely do that=]

now on to response.... I agree completely except for batman beyond, it was a damn good idea, just done wrong lol=]

marvel's been trying WAY too hard this past 8 months with Cap and Spider-man, it's not THAT hard to make great stories.... you guys have been doing it for years, why go so damn extreme?! and thats the keyword, extreme. Marvel climbed back to being the big dog when they came outside of their box. Now they're trying to recreate a box, and that's going to get them locked up inside it again..... are they setting us up with Spider-clone type garbage so when they do great stories they look like gods? Come on marvel, pay attention and stop believing the hype!

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*Phillybee:iconPhillybee: Feb 6, 2008, 12:21:17 AM
The big machine lumbers on... what happened to just pairing up a great writer and a great artist and letting them tell captivating, compelling stories featuring iconic characters ? It wouldn't be that hard to keep characters like Cap relevant since he represents an ideal thats (relatively)timeless.
I just wish the writers respected the history and tradition of the character, and by no means do I wish to imply that they should be a slave to continuity. On the contrary I think it would be better to let the gifted creators of today, few though they may be, depict their definitive version of these beloved heroes without being beholden to the minutia of what other creators have contributed in the past. As long as the major themes are in place the talented few can
entertain us with classic yarns that allow the characters to shine in any given context.

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=WlfmnXXX:iconWlfmnXXX: Feb 6, 2008, 12:28:28 AM
"burp!", kewl ma brutha. I agree and all that.

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~XCBDH:iconXCBDH: Feb 6, 2008, 12:33:54 AM
Meh, who cares what happens to Cap? As long as the artists get paid thair fair share, I'm thinking that's all that matters now. Marvel's just looking out for the next big movie deal anyway. With that in mind, I wouldn't be coming up with the best scripts for this stuff either, not if I'm just gonna get tossed aside in the end for some hot shot hollywood screenwriter who makes three times my pay (and judging by circumstance, was probably hired off the street by Sony's desperate asses). Rubbish.

I say let 'em have their fun. Let's see how deep a hole they dig and see if Marvel even cares anymore. JUST MAYBE it'll remind them that their primary job is to SELL COMICS!

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~Ritter1:iconRitter1: Feb 6, 2008, 1:06:43 AM
I agree... and dont get me started on this spider-man bullsh*t.

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*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Feb 6, 2008, 1:49:33 AM
Well spoken, whoever you is.

Continuity is both blessing and malediction. It helps manifest a cohesive universe and history for a company's characters, but it also burdens new creators with past mistakes or limitations. It also has the irony of being so grounded in credible "realism," yet it glaringly illuminates the fantasy of how the perenially published characters cannot realistically age. Of course, the alternate prospect is "Archie," and "Charlie Brown."

I sometimes wish it were feasible to allow two separate lines, whereby you could have the regular fanboy continuity, letting the numbers soar past 500...
And another line could be independent of all the complex soap opera madness, unencumbered by slavish and cluttered storylines. An anthology series, with ongoing finite adventures featuring rotating creative teams, telling pure stories with no concern for sequence or timelines. Got a cool Cap story from circa WW II? Or a Batman story arc before there was a Robin? This would be the format for it. Miller's "Dark Knight," and Ross's "Kingdom Come" fit this category.

Just musing. Maybe they've already thought of it, and it wasn't workable cost-to-profit-wise.

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*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Feb 6, 2008, 1:51:10 AM
Take it easy on that bicarbonate, ma brutha. :) Gassy.

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*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Feb 6, 2008, 1:53:20 AM
Ooh! There was some acid in that mini-rant. Preach on, X. Seems you know more about it than I do.

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~XCBDH:iconXCBDH: Feb 6, 2008, 3:23:27 AM
Pheh, please man, we all know you're the one with the scars. I'm still wearing band-aids here.

But, you know, it's just so obvious. The big publishers know they aren't breaking even on comics, so they get a buncha bum freelancers like me to sign these "work-for-hires" for really nothing in pay, pool their ideas and see what's sellin', and then yank it to pitch for a movie making millions. So hey now, comic artist signed his rights away, he can't do squat, he don't get squat. Too late! Switch him out for another sucker!

Technology's made these publishers much more bold in what they can pitch (now Cap's shield won't be hanging on a string), and made them feel even less dependent on what they're printin'. It's getting insane, and sooner or later you know it's gonna implode on itself. I almost say let it. It's making me more and more angry to see these industry vets, 10+ years in, still barely scraping by and not even having a mention in the credits. I just know there gotta be better ways this could be run. You could almost say it's time to let these ugly juggernauts die so we can bring the business back to the companies that actually care about comics again. Hey, I think it's what the Captain would want us to do, God bless him.


Oh, and I guess it doesn't hurt to mention that I just saw Spiderman 3 for the first time the other day. RRRGH!


Anyway, what about you J? I know you musta experienced a lot of this drama firsthand. Am I speaking out of place or what?

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*spiderguile:iconspiderguile: Feb 6, 2008, 4:22:49 AM Mood: Joy
You already repost it, Jerome!

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