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GEEK WARS

Journal Entry: Tue Jan 29, 2008, 10:16 PM
  • Mood: Bewildered
  • Listening to: Various film scores
  • Reading: Ludlum
  • Watching: DVDs on HD Plasma
  • Playing: Silly stuff on PS3, and XBox 360
  • Eating: Humble Pie
  • Drinking: Grog
With this online art community, we have a unique opportunity to connect with our kindred. We must avail ourselves of this experience, for it may never come again.

I was exchanging messages here on DA with a rather interesting and intelligent new friend. The subject arose of how some people, in their extreme adoration for various properties in the pop culture entertainment genre, see fit to divide their ranks into competitive factions. Call them "geeks," "fanboys/girls," whatever... I'm sure the members of each faction prefer to attach what title they have affectionately derived from the object of their unswerving devotion. I don't know all the groupings, but there are Trekkies(TrekkERS!) for Star Trek-- I might qualify for that one. lol-- and Star Wars fans have spawned the 501st, an Imperial garrison to which my younger sister once belonged. And I know that "Firefly," a short-lived cable television series, inspired its own "Browncoats." In any event, sophomoric conflicts and rivalries arise to the point that an individual regards his/her loyalty as belonging to a specific camp, sometimes to the exclusion of another, unless in secret.
What follows is an excerpt of our exchange, with my usual speechifying commentary.

***DISCLAIMER ALERT*** All expletives have been deleted, and messages may contain junk philosophy.

HaHa! Your little aside sparked a thought in my head, and I may use this now as a Journal Entry.

I always found it puzzling and amusing that sci-fi/fantasy fans somehow thought there needed to be a division of loyalties between those who loved Star Trek, and those who loved Star Wars. It's so ridiculous. It's as if they decided to select their favorite sports teams, and never the twain shall meet. If some attended Trek conventions, they would deride any who showed up in Star Wars regalia, and vice versa. The same silliness occurred between lesser show properties such as Quantum Leap, Stargate SG1, and the ever-loyal Babylon 5 crowd. I imagine there are battle lines drawn between the fandom of Potter, Lord of the Rings, and The Chronicles of Narnia, too.

I just shake my head over it all.

The same thing happens here on DA. A girl who loves Looney Tunes, and expresses her "devotion" by posting Bugs Bunny fan art, and joining clubs, is then chastised because she finds new excitement in Avatar, or some Japanese anime. It couldn't be more childish and dumb. It's ALL entertainment. All of it is there for all to enjoy. The only loyalty the creators care about is your patronage, which then translates to cash for them (see: Geroge Lucas). Beyond that, they couldn't care less, and they hide their disdain for the costumed and rabid fans behind practiced smiles while they sign $20 autographs at convention tables.
I suppose there's an aspect of fun rivalry for fans who delight in the schisms, competing with each other on various levels. It may begin as friendly discussions over lunch about an episode of their favorite television show airing the night before, or a movie they wish to recommend to the group. Once another fan's contrasting opinion or advice is shouted down, the competition ensues, and spreads to overblown proportion. Personally, I think this ventures into the "Get a Life" territory.

As William Shatner cracked on that infamously poignant Saturday Night Live sketch, "It's just a TV show! You've all taken what I did --- years ago as a lark, and turned it into this colossal waste of time!"

Wisdom through Wit.

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=KC-Whitestar:iconKC-Whitestar: Jan 29, 2008, 10:59:55 PM
I couldn't agree with you more. I try to respect those who have their fandoms and such, but the people I can't stand are those that force it onto you. You know?

What I mean by force it on to you is, say your talking to someone. And you find out they like something you don't, and you tell them you don't like it, but they won't shut up about it.

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~Takineko:iconTakineko: Jan 29, 2008, 11:29:24 PM
In Jr. High I started to fall into the uber Star Wars fan category. Luckily I didn't dive so far in that I lost my life to it. But I'm a fangirl of so many things.

I talk extensively with rather intelligent people about Animaniacs. I think I'm a geek.

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~LD6:iconLD6: Jan 29, 2008, 11:38:22 PM
I agree wholeheartedly, why must we treat our fandoms like sports teams? I find that variety is the spice of life, and often times enjoy "competing" fandoms. I don't see anything wrong with it but I've been told I'm disloyal to one fandom or the other. It's frankly quite stupid.

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=MaciaPaladin:iconMaciaPaladin: Jan 29, 2008, 11:57:56 PM
I can only hope that someday, people feel as vehemently loyal about my product, Starship Moonhawk as fandom still does about any of those things mentioned. (and of course so many more. ^^)

But I just used the word that sums up the whole "problem" in a nutshell, Jerome. "Fandom". Embrace it, or watch out, cuz the freight train is rollin' down the tracks. lol

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~StudioRisingStar:iconStudioRisingStar: Jan 30, 2008, 12:57:45 AM
Straight up Rome!
It's just like how I feel about art.
We should respect and enjoy all forms of art , entertainment, and/or fandom. It's all the same entertainment. Opinions are one thing but in the end someone created these properties that we love and we should enjoy it and treat it as it is...a work of art or a fine work of creativity.

-SRS
*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Jan 30, 2008, 1:04:58 AM
Fandom is fine. But just because I may like apples does not mean I kick over the avocado cart at the market.

And I don't deny myself the pleasure of sampling and enjoying lots of other fruits and vegetables simply because I've selected a favorite. I won't wear a fanboy T-shirt reading, "APPLES RULE! BANANAS SUCK!!!"

Or should that be, suck bananas? LOL!

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*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Jan 30, 2008, 1:19:58 AM
You get it, Jenna. :)

But then, I don't see anything wrong with liking more than one sports team, or feeling obliged to support a certain team just because you live in that particular city, or state, or country. I love the Los Angeles Lakers. But I loved Michael Jordan's Chicago Bulls, too. And I deeply respected Larry Bird's Boston Celtics beneath the good-spirited animus.

Much of humanity suffers from this "us against them" mentality. Our club is better than your club. It can be a harmless expression of pride, and an impetus to higher achievement. It can also be at the root of great tragedy.

This discussion doesn't concern such serious extremes... even though some fandoms are indeed extremely tragic. LOL!

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"Get three coffins ready."
BLAM! KaPOW! BANG! BLAM!
"My mistake. Four coffins."
=MaciaPaladin:iconMaciaPaladin: Jan 30, 2008, 1:20:15 AM
Touche. LOL

To a certain degree, I was being facetious. Fandom these days seems to have gotten out of control, but on the pragmatic side of things, if I can "tap somma dat ass", I may be able to make a decent living off it. Double-edged sword I guess, eh? :)

Good times.

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"I'm not in denial, but even if I were, I wouldn't admit it."
*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Jan 30, 2008, 1:22:17 AM
Animaniacs??? You need professional help. LOL!!!

Kidding. Put the shotgun down. Don't be a Wakko just cuz I'm a Yakko, and don't wish to be a Dot.

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"Get three coffins ready."
BLAM! KaPOW! BANG! BLAM!
"My mistake. Four coffins."
*Jerome-K-Moore:iconJerome-K-Moore: Jan 30, 2008, 1:26:34 AM
I would call those the fandom evangelists, a more obnoxious branch of the fandom zealots. They're not above kidnapping, cult induction, and ritual sacrifice, so be careful.

But I've discovered they're usually distracted by Twinkies tossed on the ground.

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"Get three coffins ready."
BLAM! KaPOW! BANG! BLAM!
"My mistake. Four coffins."